Post by Knuckles on Feb 6, 2005 23:52:33 GMT
I rewatched Not Fade away just after To Shanshu in LA a few days ago and something Lindsey says before having his hand taken off rang in my ears as I watched NFA. He says that Wolfram and Heart will take away Angel’s ties so let’s take a look at them.
Doyle – dead
Cordy – Dead
Fred – dead
Wesley – dead
Gunn – looks to be about to die.
PTB – after Jasmine he cant be on good terms with them
Buffy – he left her
Spike – hardly a tie
Illyria – an Evil Thing that killed his friend hardly a tie.
So that’s quite straight forward Other than Doyle WR and H are responsible for those to some extent. But we’re missing out a major tie.
in To Shanshu in LA when Angel believes he is going to die he doesn’t care either way because Cordy say’s he has no ties to the world, but when he finds out he will become human he was glad happy less broodish. Well that makes the Shanshu a tie and what did he do in NFA he signed it away he lost that tie.
Then he kicks some demon ass and brought about the Senior Partners "Raining all hell on earth.” So what part of the Apocalypse did Angel play? Well he started it, which seems pretty pivotal to me. So in a way you can see that maybe Joss hinted that the fight Angel's in assuming he survives we've all read the meaning behind "I Kinda wanna slay the dragon." taking to mean that the Dragon Slayer always wins, but maybe that was Joss final message that Angel earned the Shanshu because he gave up everything not for it, in spite of it for something else.
That or I miss the show too much and am reading too deeply into it but hey.
Doyle – dead
Cordy – Dead
Fred – dead
Wesley – dead
Gunn – looks to be about to die.
PTB – after Jasmine he cant be on good terms with them
Buffy – he left her
Spike – hardly a tie
Illyria – an Evil Thing that killed his friend hardly a tie.
So that’s quite straight forward Other than Doyle WR and H are responsible for those to some extent. But we’re missing out a major tie.
in To Shanshu in LA when Angel believes he is going to die he doesn’t care either way because Cordy say’s he has no ties to the world, but when he finds out he will become human he was glad happy less broodish. Well that makes the Shanshu a tie and what did he do in NFA he signed it away he lost that tie.
Then he kicks some demon ass and brought about the Senior Partners "Raining all hell on earth.” So what part of the Apocalypse did Angel play? Well he started it, which seems pretty pivotal to me. So in a way you can see that maybe Joss hinted that the fight Angel's in assuming he survives we've all read the meaning behind "I Kinda wanna slay the dragon." taking to mean that the Dragon Slayer always wins, but maybe that was Joss final message that Angel earned the Shanshu because he gave up everything not for it, in spite of it for something else.
That or I miss the show too much and am reading too deeply into it but hey.
