PuppetCancer
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Post by PuppetCancer on Jun 9, 2004 7:28:14 GMT
( Angel, Spike, Illyria (and Gunn ?) are getting into the car, headed out to another mission. Angel gets behind the wheel. Spike looks at him) Spike: why do you get to drive? Angel: well, aside from it being my car...You killed MY dragon!
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Post by Jaxxson on Jun 9, 2004 7:36:21 GMT
Illyira:all you do now i fight over the dragon if you were in the battle fieald with me i would have ripped out your hearts
Angel: did you see the blood
Spike: you can say all you want you poof i killed the Dragon
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Post by Doyle on Jun 9, 2004 8:03:11 GMT
( Angel, Spike, Illyria (and Gunn ?) are getting into the car, headed out to another mission. Angel gets behind the wheel. Spike looks at him) Spike: why do you get to drive? Angel: well, aside from it being my car...You killed MY dragon! FLOL! That's fucking brilliant. Be great to work that scene into the premiere! lol
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chris
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Post by chris on Jun 15, 2004 23:03:14 GMT
Wasn't sure where to ask this but is there a date that people are aiming for the first episode to be ready for?
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PuppetCancer
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Post by PuppetCancer on Jun 16, 2004 0:56:19 GMT
I dont think so, Chris. I think were all realizing were in no rush. take our time. make this thing the shiz nit cant rush perfection, baby
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Post by LizaP on Jun 19, 2004 19:03:43 GMT
I would like to make a suggestion that maybe it's time to get organized and set up how the episodes are going to play out? Drew or Doyle said somewhere that the first episode has been assigned - cool, but what about the rest?
I am asking for a chart or something that says what each episode will focus on and maybe that way we can get the episodes in some kind of sequential order so we know that in ep. 1, X happens and in episode 4 Y happens and so on - we have all these great ideas and I think it's time to order them so we know both when new characters are introduced and the history of the prior episodes so we don't have something happen before the background is laid.
If it's a little premature for this, fine - but in order not to lose the thread of all we have come up with as well as to not lose posters or readers, I think we could crank it up a notch and do a little "white boarding" here.
What do you think?
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Post by Drew on Jun 19, 2004 22:29:41 GMT
Check the Approved Ideas section and go to Season Outline(s).
There you will find info up until Ep. 9.
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Post by dano on Jul 6, 2004 8:38:31 GMT
Been catching up on developments here on the board, after a few weeks away, and I gotta say that I'm really amazed and impressed by how this all is beginning to take shape.
Going back a little bit, here's a thought I had about the issue of how our heroes survive the end-of-S5 battle:
Building on the idea that Grace is a renegade PTB who's banished herself (or been banished) to corporeal form on the human plane, and given that one of her characteristics is that the echoes of her former power and position scare the fuck out of demons of all sorts, and given that the PTBs presumably didn't know what Grace had been up to sending Angel the last Cordy vision until the Black Thorn was eradicated, it seems eminently reasonable that Grace, getting out of Dodge (and into LA) just ahead of the posse might well manifest on the human plane right around the time the battle with the dragon, etc., was going down.
So. Say we've gotten to the point where our heroes had racked up a huge body count, but were about to be overwhelmed by force of numbers, when in a flash of white light (or whatever) Grace materializes in the midst of the demon ranks. There's a massive discharge of mystical energy (the remains of her PTB power leaving her as her transformation to human completes), which has the effect of freaking the hell out of all the demons, as well as fuzzing the memories of our heroes, and Grace as well. She falls unconscious, as do our heroes, but even while she's unconscious Grace's mojo works (especially given her spectacular entrance), and the remnants of the demon hordes flee in panic. Sometime later, Tobit approaches the scene of the battle, and finds the slumbering Angel, Illyra, and Spike. He doesn't spot Grace, but as Tobit tries to revive our heroes, Grace awakes, panicked and confused by all the dead demon bodies around her, and finally flees when she catches a glimpse of Tobit with the gang--even in her muddled state, she instinctively recognizes him as hostile. Gradually the gang come around, and wonder how it was they survived. Tobit considers for a moment, smiles, and says "I saved you." Thing is, as the season progresses and the gang encounters Grace for real, and begin to have their doubts about Tobit, little flashes of the end of that fight begin to return, and they begin to have flashes of memory--like the glimpse of Grace appearing and the white flash just before things went blank.
Now, I'm not saying that this all should be revealed in episode 1, or maybe ever, but some of it in dribs and drabs throughout. But more importantly, given that Grace is a crucial character, and the fang gang's surviving of the fight seems like it should be more than just a deus ex machina rescue or silly throwaway, it might be good to have our story straight on this point, whether or not any of it gets revealed. Our putative viewers might not ever need to know any of this, but the creators of the season should, imho.
So that's my idea. Feel free to rend, shred, fold, spindle or mutilate, criticize or discard as you see fit.
Cheers, Dan
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Post by Joss on Jul 6, 2004 15:28:29 GMT
It might be interesting to find out that all that Tobit has been telling them of "I pulled you outta the alley" would be crap. It could be a good twist that it was really Gracie and Tobit just swooped in and took all the credit.
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Post by Drew on Jul 6, 2004 21:33:51 GMT
I like that idea. I'd sort of been going with the idea that the Powers save Angel and Co., though. And the reason for that is that the Powers see that Grace's actions have really screwed things up for them. And they decide to take action and salvage the situation. They save Angel, Spike, and Illy because they don't let anyone die who they feel that they can still use. And they will be used.
But yes, we'd never really decided on the moment Grace appears. Thanks for bringing that up.
I really like the mystical energy discharge that happens when she appears. It's given me an idea for the end of the first ep. We had sorta decided that that is when Grace will first be shown to the audience, when we set her up as a potential big bad. This is a red herrring of course.
But at the end of the first ep I was thinking of having Tobit say to Angel that really, since he took out the Circle, all the Big Bads are gone. It's just the little guys he needs to worry about now. Then cut to a huge horned big-bad-type demon (with a few minions) bearing down on some humans. The big guy reaches for one of them, but just then a ball of intense light appears nearby, crackling, sparking, They all stare. Suddenly, jets of energy streak out at them, burning the big demon, the little demon, and the humans from the inside out. We pan over these piles of ash and up to a pair of feet in white slippers. Pan up the white robed body and it is Grace.
Sort of a terminator style entrance, but more destruction and less nudity, i guess.
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Post by chris on Jul 6, 2004 23:39:37 GMT
I LOVE that entrance!! hehe
That would work so well to make people think she was bad, seeing as she killed humans as well (by accident of course but we don't need to know that!). If we reveal as little as possible in that shot and then end the episode I know I'd be on the edge of my seat shouting 'what the fu*k!'
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Post by LizaP on Jul 6, 2004 23:43:12 GMT
I think it's a great idea - that Grace show up in a blast of mystical energy that our heros miss. It's brilliant.
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